Presenter Script & Speaking Notes

Why the World's Largest Carriers Can't Serve the Fastest-Growing Insurance Market

An executive briefing on the inverted insurance market, the carrier infrastructure gap, and what it means for MGAs and SaaS founders entering embedded insurance.

55-60 minutes total
Ethan (Lead) + Justin (Support) + Brock (Cameo)
Live with screen share capability

Session Timing Overview

Tone & Pacing Reference

Ethan

Actuarial precision meets accessibility. Structural, measured, never condescending. Lower voice for emphasis, not louder. Pauses after data points. The actuary who explains things in plain language.

Justin

Market-level thinker. VC patience and pattern recognition. "I've seen this before." Slightly faster during the offer. Conversational confidence. The investor who has watched this movie.

Brock

Founder in the trenches. Short sentences. Real frustration. Unpolished. The person who lived through the pain and decided to fix it. Two minutes, no more.

SLIDE: Welcome slide with title, date, presenter names. Clean, dark background. No animations.

No background music. This is not a consumer webinar.

JUSTIN (in chat or brief verbal):

"We'll be starting in about five minutes. While you wait, drop your company name and role in the chat. It helps us tailor the Q&A at the end."

Purpose: Priming engagement. The chat activity gives presenters real-time intel on who is in the room --- MGA operators, SaaS founders, technical evaluators. Adjust Q&A emphasis accordingly.

The Hook (Ethan, 2 min)

SLIDE: Black screen. Single line of white text: "97% of fronting carriers were built for a market that's shrinking."

ETHAN:

That number is real. We pulled it from our analysis of 107 carriers operating in the U.S. market right now.

97% of them have minimum program sizes above $20 million. Their cost structures, their data infrastructure, their staffing models. All of it was designed for a specific shape of business: rare events, large policies, low frequency.

And that shape of business is not where the growth is.

The growth market is embedded insurance. $25 policies sold at the point of checkout. Youth sports registration. Gig worker coverage. SaaS platform add-ons. Hundreds of thousands of transactions per program per year.

The insurance market inverted. And almost nobody at the carrier layer noticed.

Today we're going to show you three things.

First, the data behind this inversion and why it matters for your business, whether you're running an MGA or exploring embedded insurance from a SaaS platform.

Second, why legacy carriers are structurally locked out of serving this market. Not because they're incompetent, but because their economic architecture won't let them.

Third, what carrier infrastructure looks like when it's built from scratch for the market that actually exists.

The first 45 minutes are education and original data. No product pitch. The last 10 minutes, I'll explain how we're building the carrier for the inverted market. If you want to leave at minute 45 with zero obligation, you'll still walk away with more actionable intelligence on embedded insurance than most people get in a year. Most people stay.

Transition cue: After "Most people stay" --- brief pause, then nod to Justin. Natural handoff, no verbal transition needed. Justin takes over seamlessly.

Authority & Promise (Justin, 2 min)

SLIDE: Presenter credentials. Ethan: Chief Actuary, Palomar ($10B carrier), $2B premium managed. Justin: Rally Ventures, 20+ years embedded finance. Brock: Founder, Vertical Insure, co-founder Slingshot.

JUSTIN:

Quick context on who you're hearing from today.

I've spent 20 years in embedded finance, primarily payments. Rally Ventures has been investing in this space since before Stripe was Stripe. I've watched the payments industry go from "banks do everything" to "every SaaS company is a payments company." The exact same structural shift is happening in insurance. And the timing is almost identical to where payments was in 2010.

Ethan was Chief Actuary and Chief Data Officer at Palomar, a $10B public insurance carrier. He managed $2 billion in top-line premium with 500 employees. He didn't leave because the people were bad. He left because the architecture was incompatible with where the industry needs to go. He's the rare person who has both built carrier operations at massive scale and writes production code. That combination basically doesn't exist in insurance.

Brock built Vertical Insure, an embedded insurance MGA for youth sports, event cancellation, and specialty lines. He experienced every carrier pain point from the MGA side. Six-month onboarding. Opaque data. Carriers who provide paper and nothing else. Brock is our co-founder and our first customer. You'll hear from him in a few minutes.

Expectations (Ethan, 1 min)

ETHAN:

Here's the plan for the next 55 minutes.

Section one: the market inversion. What shifted, why it matters, and what the data looks like. About 15 minutes.

Section two: the carrier gap. Why legacy carriers can't serve this market, with specific economics. About 10 minutes.

Section three: what purpose-built carrier infrastructure looks like. Architecture, not marketing. About 10 minutes.

Then we'll transition to what we're building at Slingshot and how to engage. About 10 minutes. And we'll close with Q&A.

I want this to be useful regardless of whether you ever talk to us again. So the education is real. The data is original. And the questions at the end are open to anything.

Let's go.

Transition cue: "Let's go" is the energy shift. Ethan clicks to the first teaching slide. No pause here --- momentum carries forward.

Insight 1: The Market Flipped (Ethan, 7 min)

SLIDE 1: "The 200-Year Assumption" --- chart showing traditional insurance: low frequency, high severity, high premium per policy.

SLIDE 2: Transition. "Then the market inverted." Chart flips: high frequency, low severity, low premium. Visual cross-over point.

SLIDE 3: Market sizing. $18B (2020) to $72B (today), projected toward $1.4T globally.

SLIDE 4: "The economics that protected carriers for 200 years now lock them out."

ETHAN:

Insurance has operated on the same fundamental economic assumption for 200 years.

The assumption is this: insurance covers rare, catastrophic events. Your house burns down. Your car is totaled. Someone sues your company for $10 million. These events are infrequent but severe. And every piece of carrier infrastructure --- from the actuarial models to the data pipelines to the staffing ratios to the regulatory frameworks --- was built around this assumption.

It worked. For two centuries, it worked brilliantly.

[Click to transition slide]

Here's what changed.

Insurance moved into the checkout flow. You register your kid for youth soccer and there's a $25 accident policy at checkout. You book a concert ticket and there's event cancellation insurance. You subscribe to a SaaS platform and there's embedded coverage for your business operations.

These policies are small. $25 on average. But there are hundreds of thousands of them per program per year. And the market is growing at 30%+ annually.

[Click to market sizing slide]

This is the embedded insurance market. And the carriers didn't notice. Or they noticed and couldn't do anything about it. Because here's the thing.

A legacy fronting carrier needs roughly $20 million in gross written premium per program to make the economics work. That's not greed. That's arithmetic. Their operational cost structure --- compliance staff, underwriting teams, reporting infrastructure, regulatory filings --- was built for large programs with relatively few policies. When you try to run a $3 million program through that infrastructure, the carrier loses money. So they don't do it.

State National's minimum is $20 million. Fortegra. Markel. Concert. All the same. One carrier literally laughed when a SaaS founder said her first-year book would be $3 million.

But that $3 million book, if it's 120,000 policies at $25 each, might grow to $10 million in year two and $30 million in year three. The growth is there. The carrier infrastructure isn't.

Key data to land: 97% above $20M minimum. $25 average policy. 30%+ annual growth. $18B to $72B market growth. These are the numbers attendees will remember. Pause briefly after each.

Insight 1B: Why This Matters for You (Justin, 4 min)

SLIDE: Two columns. "Traditional carrier economics" vs. "Inverted market economics."

SLIDE: The total cost stack. Carrier fee 5% + platform + compliance + actuarial + reconciliation labor + reinsurance broker + trapped collateral = 25-40%.

JUSTIN:

Let me translate this into business terms.

If you're running an MGA today, your carrier probably charges 5% of gross written premium. And for that 5%, you get 50-state licensing, statutory capital, and regulatory compliance. That's the paper. That's the license.

What you don't get: modern data infrastructure, real-time reporting, data you can trust, reinsurance optimization, automated reconciliation, or any technology built for your actual business.

So on top of the 5% carrier fee, you're paying for a separate technology platform. Maybe Sure, maybe Boost, maybe a custom build. You're paying for compliance consultants. Actuarial consultants. A data reconciliation team that spends three weeks every quarter cross-referencing spreadsheets.

By the time you add it all up, the total cost of your carrier relationship isn't 5%. It's 25 to 40% of your economics. Spread across five or six vendors. And nobody owns the whole picture.

If you're a SaaS founder looking at this market for the first time, it's worse. You can't even get a meeting with most carriers. Your program is too small. You don't speak the language. And the one consultant your board recommended charges $400 an hour to teach you vocabulary without executing anything.

That's the carrier gap. And it's not going to close on its own, because closing it would require legacy carriers to cannibalize their existing business model.

Audience-specific resonance: MGA operators will nod at "25-40%." SaaS founders will recognize the "$400/hour consultant." Watch the chat for reactions here --- these are engagement signals.

Insight 1C: The Payments Parallel (Justin, 4 min)

SLIDE: "Payments in 2009" vs. "Insurance in 2026." Side by side. Before Stripe: 6-month bank integrations, $50K+ setup. After Stripe: 7 lines of code, same-day setup, 2.9% + $0.30.

JUSTIN:

I want to draw a specific parallel because I've seen this exact movie before.

In 2009, if you wanted to accept payments online, you needed a merchant account with a bank. The application was 20 pages. Approval took weeks to months. Setup cost $50,000+. And the technology was a nightmare.

Stripe launched in 2011 with seven lines of code and a developer-first API. Banks charged 2.1%. Stripe charged 2.9% plus thirty cents. A premium. And every single startup happily paid the premium because the speed and developer experience were worth it.

What happened next? The number of companies accepting payments online exploded. Stripe didn't just capture existing demand. It created new demand by making the infrastructure accessible.

That is exactly what's happening in insurance right now. The same structural shift. The same locked-out incumbents. The same opportunity for a purpose-built infrastructure layer.

The difference? Payments is a $2 trillion market. Insurance is a $3+ trillion market. And the economics per transacted dollar are juicier. Except the infrastructure doesn't exist yet.

Or it didn't.

Pacing note: After "Or it didn't" --- FULL STOP. Two-second pause. Let it land. This is the most important open loop in the entire briefing. Do NOT fill the silence. Then Ethan transitions to Section 3.

Insight 2: Why Legacy Carriers Can't Adapt (Ethan, 5 min)

SLIDE: "It's not a technology problem. It's an architecture problem." + Swiss Re iptiQ case study summary.

SLIDE: Architecture comparison. "Bolt-on" vs. "Purpose-built" diagram.

SLIDE: "Snapshot vs. Restated: The distinction your carrier hopes you never ask about."

ETHAN:

This is the part most people get wrong. They think legacy carriers just need better technology. Bolt on some AI. Hire a CTO. Build an API.

It doesn't work. And I can prove it.

Swiss Re is a $35 billion reinsurance company. They built iptiQ, their own carrier-as-a-service platform, with essentially unlimited capital. They spent years and hundreds of millions of dollars.

They're selling it. They couldn't make it work.

Not because they didn't have the money. Not because they didn't have the talent. Because they built it on top of existing carrier economics. The architecture was wrong.

When you bolt AI onto a carrier system that was designed in the 1990s, the AI can only be as good as the data it touches. And the data at most carriers is a mess.

I know this from the inside. At Palomar, I was Chief Actuary and Chief Data Officer. I had access to everything. And I still couldn't trace the lineage of a single data object from origination to final report without calling three people and checking two systems.

That's not a bug. That's the architecture. Carriers don't have data lineage because they were never designed for it.

[Click to Snapshot vs. Restated slide]

Here's a concept most people in this audience have never heard of, because carriers don't talk about it.

When your carrier sends you a bordereau, is that number the snapshot --- the number as it was at the moment of calculation --- or is it the restated number, adjusted after the fact? Most carriers don't distinguish between the two. Numbers get quietly adjusted. You don't know which version you're looking at.

If that sounds abstract, ask Marcus. He had $3 million in collateral frozen for 18 months because his reinsurer asked one question: "Where did this premium number come from?" Nobody at the carrier could answer it.

Note: "Ask Marcus" is a deliberate reference to the persona archetype. If a real "Marcus" is in the room (burned MGA operator), this line will resonate viscerally. Watch for chat reactions.

Insight 2B: What This Costs You (Ethan, 5 min)

SLIDE: "The Hidden Tax on MGA Operations." Line items with dollar amounts on a $20M program.

ETHAN:

Let me put real numbers on this.

If you're running a $20 million MGA program with a legacy carrier, here's what the data architecture problem actually costs you.

  • Manual reconciliation: $200,000/year. 5 people, 3 weeks every quarter, cross-referencing spreadsheets.
  • Trapped collateral: $1-5 million. Reinsurer holds excess because they can't verify the data.
  • Knowledge loss from turnover: Unquantifiable. Every underwriter departure resets institutional knowledge to zero.
  • Compliance risk: Unquantifiable. Data that can't prove its own lineage means every audit is a fire drill.

Total: $500,000 to $2 million per year in direct costs, trapped capital, and opportunity cost. On top of the 5% carrier fee.

So here's the question. What would carrier infrastructure look like if you built it from scratch? Not bolted AI onto a 1990s system. Not tried to modernize a legacy architecture. Built it new.

Transition cue: This question hangs. One-second pause. Then click to the next slide. The rhetorical question bridges directly into Section 4.

Insight 3: Purpose-Built Carrier Infrastructure (Ethan, 7 min)

SLIDE: "What if carrier infrastructure had a birth certificate for every data object?"

SLIDE: Visual of a single data object's birth certificate. Origin, custody chain, version tree.

SLIDE: "The platform remembers what people forget."

SLIDE: Economics comparison. Legacy $12-$18/policy vs. purpose-built $0.25-$0.50/policy.

ETHAN:

This is where I get excited, so bear with me.

Imagine every single data object in a carrier system --- every policy, every premium payment, every claim, every bordereau entry --- carries what we call a birth certificate.

Not a timestamp. A birth certificate. Origin: where did this data come from? Chain of custody: who touched it, when, and what did they change? Version history: every state this data has ever been in, with the ability to see any prior version.

In this system, when a reinsurer asks "where did this number come from?" the answer takes 30 seconds. Not 30 days. Not "let me get back to you." 30 seconds. Because the lineage is baked into the data model, not added as an afterthought.

Reconciliation becomes automatic. Not a quarterly sprint. When data ingests, it reconciles against the source. Discrepancies flag in real time. The three-week, five-person reconciliation exercise becomes a dashboard.

Now layer on what we call the Institutional Memory Engine.

When an underwriter leaves your carrier, what happens to everything they knew about your program? It walks out the door with them. Their replacement starts from zero.

What if the platform retained that intelligence? Every underwriting decision, every claims pattern, every risk assessment, every exception --- stored as structured knowledge that persists regardless of who's sitting in the chair.

Day 1 performance equals Year 5 knowledge. Because the system learns from every transaction, across every program, from the moment it goes live.

And here's the part that matters for the inverted market.

Legacy carrier operations cost somewhere between $12 and $18 per policy to process. That's fine when the average policy premium is $5,000. The cost is invisible.

But when the average policy premium is $25? The processing cost is higher than the policy itself. That's why legacy carriers need $20 million minimums. Their cost-per-policy makes small programs uneconomic.

Purpose-built AI-native operations bring that cost below a dollar per policy. That's what makes a $3 million program profitable. That's what makes sub-$20 million economics viable. And that's what makes the inverted market accessible.

Insight 3B: The Collective Effect (Justin, 3 min)

SLIDE: "What happens when multiple MGAs share a carrier that learns from all of them?"

SLIDE: "Benchmark data you can't build alone. Reinsurance leverage that requires collective scale. Data sovereignty guaranteed by architecture, not contracts."

JUSTIN:

One more piece. And this is the part that really has no precedent in the carrier market.

When multiple MGA programs run on the same purpose-built infrastructure, the intelligence compounds. Loss patterns from one program inform underwriting for another. Frequency data from one vertical creates early warning signals for related verticals. Reinsurance negotiating power scales with aggregate GWP.

Think about what this means in practice.

You're an MGA running coastal hospitality insurance. On your own, you have one data point: your book. You don't know how your loss ratio compares to peers. You don't know if your pricing is aggressive or conservative. You negotiate reinsurance with one book's leverage.

Now imagine you're part of a collective of 20 MGAs. You still own your data. Nobody sees your individual numbers without your permission. But the collective intelligence gives you peer benchmarks you've never had access to. And the aggregate GWP gives your reinsurance negotiations 20x the leverage.

That's not an ecosystem pitch. There are no Slack channels and quarterly webinars in exchange for your logo. It's specific, measurable value that you cannot replicate alone.

Transition cue: After the collective section, Ethan takes over for the bridge. The teaching phase is complete. Brief beat of silence before moving into the pitch transition.

The Bridge (Ethan, 3 min)

SLIDE: "So who's building this?"

SLIDE: Slingshot logo. "The carrier built from scratch for the inverted market."

ETHAN:

Everything I've shown you so far --- the inversion data, the carrier gap analysis, the architecture concepts --- that's the problem and the framework.

Now I want to tell you what we're doing about it.

But first, one thing. If this is where you want to get off, you've already gotten what we promised: original market data, a framework for evaluating carrier partners, and three questions you should be asking any carrier you talk to. That's real. You can leave now and use this.

For those of you who want to see the solution, let me introduce Slingshot properly.

We didn't start with a carrier and try to modernize it. We didn't bolt AI onto a legacy system. We didn't license a platform and call ourselves a carrier.

We acquired a carrier shell with 50-state licensing and statutory surplus. And we're rebuilding the entire operational and data architecture from the first line of code.

Why? Because I spent 15 years inside carrier operations and I know that you can't fix the architecture from inside. The institutional resistance isn't about people. It's about economics. Every dollar of modernization cannibalizes the existing business. Nobody at a profitable legacy carrier will sign off on that.

So we built a new one.

Critical moment: "You can leave now and use this" is the most important line in the transition. It releases pressure. It builds trust. The audience that stays past this moment is self-selected for high intent.

Brock Cameo (2 min)

Brock appears either live or via pre-recorded segment. Keep to 2 minutes maximum.

BROCK:

I'll keep this short.

Three years ago, I was building Vertical Insure. Youth sports registration, event cancellation, pet insurance, specialty lines. Embedded insurance sold through checkout flows. $25 policies.

I called every carrier you've heard of. State National. Fortegra. Chubb. Concert. And the experience was the same every time.

Six-month onboarding was the best case. Data came in spreadsheets that my team spent weeks reconciling. Nobody at the carrier understood my business because my policies are small, frequent, and digital, and their entire world is large, rare, and paper-based.

One carrier told me my book was "interesting but not strategic." Another literally couldn't process the volume of policies we needed. Their system choked because it was designed for 500 policies a year, not 500,000.

When I met Ethan, I wasn't looking for a co-founder. I was looking for someone who understood the carrier problem well enough to fix it. And then I realized: nobody was going to fix it. The incentives don't work. You have to build new.

So we did. I'm not just a co-founder. I'm the first customer. Everything we build gets tested against my real operational pain. If it doesn't work for me, it doesn't ship.

The Slingshot Model (Ethan, 4 min)

SLIDE: "One carrier infrastructure. Three engagement levels." Tier overview.

ETHAN:

Here's how Slingshot works. Three tiers, each built for a specific type of partner.

Launchpad

For SaaS founders and new entrants

We create the MGA entity for you. Handle the regulatory pathway. Design the insurance product. Place the reinsurance. Teach you the category. And integrate through an API into your existing checkout flow.

Investment: 5.5% of GWP. No setup fee. No platform fee. No upfront capital. If your first-year book is $3 million, that's $165,000 annually. Less than one senior engineering hire.

Guarantee: 90-day launch. If we don't hit it and the delay is ours, we waive the carrier fee on your first million of premium. Up to $55,000.

Operator

For experienced MGA founders running $5-$50M programs

Everything in Launchpad, minus the education, plus: full artifact-based data trust with birth certificate protocol. Snapshot versus restated reporting. Institutional memory engine. Automated reconciliation. Progressive risk retention.

Investment: 5% of GWP. Industry standard rate. Except 5% buys you the full stack, not just paper.

Guarantee: Clean Exit. If you leave, complete program data in structured, queryable, machine-readable format within 30 days. Not scanned PDFs.

Collective

For high-performing MGAs running $50M+ programs

Everything in Operator, plus: curated partner collective with peer benchmarking. Aggregate reinsurance leverage. Data sovereignty architecture you can audit. Governance seat for founding members.

Investment: 4.5-5% of GWP, negotiated by program.

The Value Stack (Justin, 3 min)

SLIDE: "What 5% buys you today vs. what 5% buys you with Slingshot." Side-by-side.

SLIDE: "Same price. Different century."

JUSTIN:

Let me frame this in the simplest way possible.

Right now, most MGAs pay 5% of GWP for carrier services. For that 5%, they get 50-state licensing, statutory capital, and a regulatory compliance framework. That's the paper.

On top of that 5%, they pay separately for a technology platform, compliance management, actuarial consulting, data reconciliation staff, and reinsurance brokerage. Total effective cost: 25 to 40%.

With Slingshot, the 5% includes everything. One carrier. One platform. One invoice. One data architecture. One team that owns the whole picture.

For Launchpad clients, setting up an MGA entity through traditional channels costs $200,000 to $500,000 before a single policy is written. Slingshot includes entity creation, product design, regulatory pathway, and category education in the carrier fee. Zero upfront cost.

Objection Handling (Ethan, 3 min)

SLIDE: "The questions you should be asking." Each objection appears one at a time.

ETHAN:

Before we open Q&A, let me address the five things I know you're thinking.

Objection 1: "You're pre-revenue. What happens to my program?"

Shell with 50-state licenses. $20-30M capitalization. Cut-through reinsurance provisions. Quarterly surplus visibility.

Objection 2: "Every carrier promises transparency."

The Birth Certificate Test. Pick any data object in your first meeting. Full lineage in 60 seconds or the conversation is over. On Ethan's end, not yours.

Objection 3: "I can't evaluate whether you're good."

5 Questions Guide (for MGA operators). Embedded Insurance Revenue Playbook (for SaaS founders). Links in chat.

Objection 4: "I'm profitable. I don't need you."

Not selling survival. Selling leverage: benchmarks, reinsurance negotiating power, progressive risk retention. 5% becomes 15-20% margin over time.

Objection 5: "You'll mine my data."

Contractual AND architectural. Birth certificate logs every access event. Individual data structurally separated from aggregate intelligence. Co-founder's data is in the system too.

Pacing note: Each objection gets a beat of silence before the answer. This signals that you take the concern seriously. Never rush objection handling. Measured, direct, confident.

SLIDE: "Founding Member. Year 1 only."

JUSTIN:

One thing for those of you considering a serious conversation.

We're onboarding a maximum of 10 MGA programs in Year 1. That's not a marketing number. It's a real capacity constraint driven by regulatory capital requirements, operational bandwidth, and our commitment to quality onboarding.

The first 10 partners get Founding Member status. Three things that later partners won't.

  1. Locked carrier fee rate for 36 months. Rates will increase as collective value compounds. Founding members keep Year 1 pricing.
  2. Ethan personally participates in onboarding, actuarial review, and reinsurance introductions. Past 15 programs, this level of founder involvement becomes impossible.
  3. Governance seat for Collective-tier founding members. Real authority over curation standards and membership criteria. Once filled, these seats don't reopen.

We're not creating artificial scarcity. We're telling you the truth about what Year 1 access looks like versus Year 3 access.

Strategy: Prioritize live questions. If the chat is quiet, Justin reads planted questions "from a participant." Never say "we planted this question." Always frame as "we've got a question in the chat."

10 Planted Questions (use as needed)

SLIDE: Three CTA buttons. Clean layout. Links visible.

FINAL SLIDE: "The insurance market inverted. We built the carrier for what comes next. slingshot.com"

ETHAN:

Three options. Pick the one that matches where you are.

Strategy Session

Model embedded insurance revenue for your platform. 30 min, no commitment.

API Sandbox Access

Engineering team evaluates integration and data architecture. 48hr provisioning.

Technical Deep-Dive

Birth certificate protocol live, with Ethan. Actuary to operator. Architecture, not marketing.

All three links are in the chat. And the replay of this briefing goes out to all registrants within 24 hours.

Thank you for your time today.

Recovery Protocols

Technology Failure

Justin takes over voice-only while Ethan fixes the issue. Have backup slides as a PDF on local machine.

Low Attendance (<20)

"Small group today, which means we can go deeper on your specific questions." Turn the webinar into an executive roundtable.

Hostile Question

"That's a fair concern. Let me address it directly." Never dismiss. Never deflect. If you don't know, say "I don't know, but here's how I'll find out."

No Questions

Justin reads planted questions. "We've got a question in the chat from a participant who asked..."

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